2010 Giant Ltd Edition Dt Swiss Bike Wheelset
Re: Giant / DT Swiss Wheels - Rubbish Post by Nickel » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:39 pm Also have this wheelset, broke a spoke a few months back (broke at the end of the thread), at that point the wheels had about 2000 miles of use, just put it down to bad luck (had been riding on a badly potholed stretch of road on the ride where the spoke broke). Feb 17, 2011 DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition wheelset vs Mavic Ksyrium Elite. And the 2011 comes with the DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition wheelset.
The 2010 comes with the Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset and the 2011 comes with the DT Swiss R1800 Giant LTD Edition wheelset. This is also the same wheelset that you can find on the less expensive 105 5700 equipped that had an ARP of $2470. Why is the ARP of the 2011 $300 less than 2010? Where is the decrease in cost? Is it the wheels? How much better are the Ksyrium Elite wheels over the R1800 wheels?
I'll let you know. They do roll very smooth and aren't loud.
Where is the decrease in cost? Is it the wheels?
I don't know how long I can maintain that position though. I have no back or other body part injuries. The shop I will be ordering through is going to measure me up to determine the best size. What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy? This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this. I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding.
The straight-pull spokes are double butted and bladed for aerodynamics. You get 18 at the front and 24 at the rear, open crowfoot laced – a combination of radial and crossed – and they’re held in place with torx nipples that won’t round off. Just make sure you’ve got the right tool with you.
And whereas making lightweight is easy enough if you don’t mind them bending about, the high spoke tension keeps these impressively stiff – we had just the slightest discernible flex when throwing the bike around ridiculously hard. Our only real gripe is with the quick-release design. You wind it into place – there’s no cam – so it’s hard to position the lever where you want it and takes a bit more effort. Get inspired by our deals.
They accelerate fast, spin along easily on the flat and they climb noticeably quicker than wheels just a little heavier. They're stiff too – not crazy-rigid but there's certainly not a great deal of rim deflection when you lean the bike over. Maybe that's partly down to the fact that Giant have positioned the hub flanges so far apart – who knows? The important point is that they retain their shape well when you fire yourself into fast corners, giving you a strong feeling of control that's good for your confidence and overall speed. The spoke tension was consistent out of the box and it still is after several weeks of riding and all the abuse I've managed to dish out on winter roads.
How much better are the Ksyrium Elite wheels over the R1800 wheels? I can get the 2010 for $2600 and the 2011 for $2500 and I'm unsure what to do. B&q dehumidifier wdh-930dah manual. This will be my first road bike, so I will be riding the factory wheelset for at least a year. I'm not interested in replacing the wheelset, unless it were free, so please no suggestions there. Thanks for the advice.
DT Swiss's new wheelset boasts several innovative design features and is tubeless compatible. The 1450 refers to the claimed weight, though ours came in at 658g (front) and 826g (rear) – 1,484g in total – plus 76g for the skewers. That’s light but not mega-light, although you do have the advantage of the tubeless option, with its better resistance to pinch punctures, and without standard inner tubes you’ll save about 200g so things start to look much more impressive.
I can get the 2010 for $2600 and the 2011 for $2500 and I'm unsure what to do. This will be my first road bike, so I will be riding the factory wheelset for at least a year. I'm not interested in replacing the wheelset, unless it were free, so please no suggestions there. Thanks for the advice. Autocad 2012 crack 64 bit. Giant website seems to indicate that the Mavic Ksyriums are lighter than their DT Limited offering. Not sure if that is true.i did not see weights listed. Mavics are often cited as being expensive.
Out of the 4 with collectively 1000's of miles on them, I have only had have 1 wheel retrued. And the truth of the matter is that was actually a rebuild because of the crater size pot hole I hit. To me that says it all. A wheel staying true mile after mile after mile is where it's! Never again will I purchase a factory built wheel. Keep up the good work Wheelbuilder!
Can anyone advise on what to do about a problematic set of wheels I am trying to deal with. Basically I have a set of Giant P-SL1 wheels which are allegedly developed in conjunction with DT Swiss. I had a spoke snap a few months ago which was repaired under warranty.
Thanks for the advice. Giant website seems to indicate that the Mavic Ksyriums are lighter than their DT Limited offering.
You mention that both bikes require ordering. I hope you have ridden the bike before purchase?Well there lies the problem. The shop has no TCR's in stock. Hmm, I guess I better find a shop that has a TCR, regardless of spec, for me to ride and make sure the geometry isn't going to kill me.
• 2010 Custom Giant Glory I built the bike from frame up back in 2010. It has spent the majority of the past few years in storage while I have been working away for school. The bike does have your normal used cosmetic wear.
Claimed wheelset weight is 1389g. The CRC 1400 Spline is priced at £1675, €1978, $2549. The hub isn’t quite as fancy as in the CRC 1100 Spline T, coming with stainless bearings and a slightly heavier freehub body.
For example, I'm 5'8' and have owned both medium and small TCRs. For some reason I feel better fit on the small. I also have a Trek Madone 4.5 size 54cm and, measuring my bikes, have found out that the Madone fits right between Giant small and medium. Other frames to look into are those with 73 degree STA and 54 cm TTL geometry such as Jamis' Xenith and Cervelo's R3 and S3. Also take notice that handlebar height, combined with handlebar type and width, influences greatly on fit and can deceive on your size quest.
DT Swiss's new wheelset boasts several innovative design features and is tubeless compatible. The 1450 refers to the claimed weight, though ours came in at 658g (front) and 826g (rear) – 1,484g in total – plus 76g for the skewers. That’s light but not mega-light, although you do have the advantage of the tubeless option, with its better resistance to pinch punctures, and without standard inner tubes you’ll save about 200g so things start to look much more impressive.
What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy? This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this. I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding. My last two mountain bike frames were purchased without me riding the same frame built up. Thanks for the continued advice.
Cat1commuter wrote: These do look nice. I have RWS skewers on my MTB, and like them. You wouldn't want them on a race bike where you need to do a quick wheel change. I think the advantage is supposed to be that you can achieve higher clamp forces which improve the rigidity, particularly at the front (a sort of mini-Maxle effect). Not done back to back testing, mind, so can't confirm if it's true but it sort of makes sense.
Smidsy wrote:At your weight you really need 32 spokes built with proper j-spokes with good (verified) tension. I mean, really really? Really, really, really?
If you want reliable wheels that do not need constant tensioning or replacement spokes then yes REALLY. Nope, sorry, you can get plenty of reliable wheels that don't need constant tensioning or replacement spokes, with fewer spokes than that, and they can and will suit heavier riders. Sure, not all will, but plenty will.
Between the Arch and Flow, I'd go with the Flows at your weight. If you do change out your wheel set, pm me a price on your stock wheel set.I'm in Australia and would keep the stock wheels to run slick tyres occasionally. What kind of weight saving, if any, would I be looking at after converting the stock wheels to tubeless? From my limited use they do seem to be very decent wheels. I just like to spend money on myself occasionally and replacing the wheels seems like the place to put my $ with this bike. S-XC2 is a good solid wheelset, except they are a bit narrow and the shape of the bead makes pinch flats easy. I'm 6'4', 215+gear.
I haev just bought the giant TCR advanced 2011, medium frame (50) with DT Swiss wheels. I am 5 foot 7 1/2 inches with inside leg about 29 inches. I tried this bike on the trainer versus the equivalent Defy with same spec. The TCR felt really comfortable and is great on the road - this is my first racing / road bike since I was a kid - absolutely love it! DT Swiss wheels fit in cosmetically much better than last years model and it is a stunner.
What does a person normally do when a shop doesn't have the size or model they want to buy? This is my first road bike, so I'm kind of new at this. I've been riding mountain bikes since 1993, so I'm not new to riding. My last two mountain bike frames were purchased without me riding the same frame built up. Thanks for the continued advice.Hi, if your height is 5'7' a small TCR sould fit you fine.
Really pleased with mine and geometry seems much more comfortable to me than the Defy. This years frame has some improvements over last years as well, I believe.
The Tricons are certainly energetic – really eager to pick up speed and exceptional on the climbs. And whereas making lightweight is easy enough if you don’t mind them bending about, the high spoke tension keeps these impressively stiff – we had just the slightest discernible flex when throwing the bike around ridiculously hard. Our only real gripe is with the quick-release design. You wind it into place – there’s no cam – so it’s hard to position the lever where you want it and takes a bit more effort. Get inspired by our deals.
And whereas making lightweight is easy enough if you don’t mind them bending about, the high spoke tension keeps these impressively stiff – we had just the slightest discernible flex when throwing the bike around ridiculously hard. Our only real gripe is with the quick-release design. You wind it into place – there’s no cam – so it’s hard to position the lever where you want it and takes a bit more effort.
I wish I knew what hub they use. The rim says they are 470g's each.
I was wondering how these worked out for you. I am currently using the S-XC2 and was thinking about going to Stan's Flow EX. I am hoping to lower the weight of the bike and get a better wheel for tubeless then what I have, as they burp a lot if I get below 30 PSI.Didn't save a heap of weight, but some. Sorry I don't have the exact figures on-hand. Definitely stiffer wheels though and I love running tubeless. I run 28-30psi without any issue.
And 80kg is not heavy. And 75kg is not a lot less. And the argument is most certainly reversed, the OP has almost certainly had bad luck / less than optimal service, rather than the vast majority of wheel users having good luck. Pkripper wrote:I take it you're not a scientist? Take it how you like, even if you are, it does not make you right.
And 75kg is not a lot less. And the argument is most certainly reversed, the OP has almost certainly had bad luck / less than optimal service, rather than the vast majority of wheel users having good luck. Pkripper wrote:I take it you're not a scientist? Take it how you like, even if you are, it does not make you right. Good science is about questioning what we think we know, not confirming what the masses believe.
If this is the case I can only conclude Giant / DT Swiss wheels are poor quality and are to be avoided. My opinion is that the wheel needs to be rebuilt or replaced but what are my rights? The wheels are less than a year old and still well warranty. Are you a heavy rider? Spoke breakage happens but shouldn't be regular.